I think we should have the opportunity to buyout players after August 30, but you must pay the entire contract for the year instead of the 0.5 x total contract amount. Otherwise, we will all need to ensure that we don't have a 26th player coming back from injury during September.
Example: Player is on a $1-1yr contract. Normally, the buyout is $0.5. In this scenario, you could free up a roster spot for a player coming off the DL or getting called up to the majors by paying a $1 buyout instead. Just an idea to give us a chance at roster flexibility in September. Thoughts?
P.S. I think the new waiver system has worked great so far, but September will be the real test to determine whether this is the permanent solution.
Post by Blue Jays (Brandy) on Jul 12, 2019 12:12:34 GMT -5
Never thought of that before....the tying of buyouts to waivers has essentially made it that come sept 1st NO FA adds could be made....hmmm....yeah I think the above solution is valid and would fit well...
I think we could make it affect this year if we try to have a good alternative before any problems arise. THat's why I would like to at least talk through it right now. Otherwise you need to ensure you will not exceed 25 players by the buyout deadline by only having guys that are out for the season in DL spots and (probably) nobody in NA spots.
Post by Brewers (Kyle) on Jul 13, 2019 20:05:33 GMT -5
Why not go back to no buyout date? (I know, the league voted, that's why)
I dont like change (I know, its obvious), and changes in mid season affect how a season is played out. How do you know if any teams have planned for the Aug 30 date?
Because paying someone 0.5 times their salary shouldn’t be allowed the last day of the season. If anything, the full 1 times salary buyout should be extended to July 31 imo (but that’s another topic for another day)
Post by TB Rays (RSP) on Jul 16, 2019 5:13:07 GMT -5
Well really everyone should always make sure they arent over 25 man limit... if someone comes off the DL you need to make a roster move. thats part of managing your team. If you have someone out on a short term injury August 28th -- you should probably plan that he'll be coming back.
Post by Giants (Otto) on Jul 16, 2019 11:24:27 GMT -5
I think the way I see this working this year (until we re-examine the waivers and buyout rule) is that you just wouldn't be able to make a move unless you legitimately had an open spot to fill. If you have a person on NA or DL and he becomes active in September, you just live with that. The owner is unable to "clear a roster spot and activate the player in a timely fashion."
But that's something that none of us will monitor... if a better player gets activated, who will know if you just swap him into active roster for a worse player? I know I'm not gonna monitor everyone's rosters for the month.
Post by Giants (Otto) on Jul 16, 2019 23:28:16 GMT -5
Yahoo wouldn't allow you to swap two active players like that. It will let you leave an active player in a non-active spot but he would have to stay there unless another player becomes inactive.
I just don't like the idea of only paying 1/2 the salary if you get a player for 95% of the season. I think we should keep them open all year but after July 31 (Real MLB trade deadline) you shouldn't get the 1/2 x salary price and instead it should be 1 x salary, so you can use it to trim roster but don't get a real benefit for the current salary year.
I just don't like the idea of only paying 1/2 the salary if you get a player for 95% of the season. I think we should keep them open all year but after July 31 (Real MLB trade deadline) you shouldn't get the 1/2 x salary price and instead it should be 1 x salary, so you can use it to trim roster but don't get a real benefit for the current salary year.
What are you talking about? and I don't mean this in a bad way I just don't get it
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So the players being traded right now 16.5/2 would be $31 to buyout?
If after July 31, yeah. Basically unless you have lots of cash, you can only buyout 1 year deals. Similar to NBA buyouts, no player would take a buyout from multiple years. Many take a discount on a 1 year deal to sign with contender. Can still buy out for $16.5 in the first half of the season
I just don't like the idea of only paying 1/2 the salary if you get a player for 95% of the season. I think we should keep them open all year but after July 31 (Real MLB trade deadline) you shouldn't get the 1/2 x salary price and instead it should be 1 x salary, so you can use it to trim roster but don't get a real benefit for the current salary year.
What are you talking about? and I don't mean this in a bad way I just don't get it
If we allow the 1/2 salary buyout relief (a $1-1yr is a $0.5 penalty as an example) throughout the season, you can buy a guy out a week before playoffs and use that money on a longer term piece and get an advance on free agency. Even though you had the $1-1yr player on your roster for over 95% of the season, you still only pay $0.5 and free up the remaining even though you had him almost the entire season. Just think its kind of a joke and far from realistic (which is what we strive to be for the most part).
What are you talking about? and I don't mean this in a bad way I just don't get it
If we allow the 1/2 salary buyout relief (a $1-1yr is a $0.5 penalty as an example) throughout the season, you can buy a guy out a week before playoffs and use that money on a longer term piece and get an advance on free agency. Even though you had the $1-1yr player on your roster for over 95% of the season, you still only pay $0.5 and free up the remaining even though you had him almost the entire season. Just think its kind of a joke and far from realistic (which is what we strive to be for the most part).
You mean a 1 week before the end of the season I assume since we have no playoffs. I say so be it. This late in the season there is practically nothing in the FA pool of players.
If we allow the 1/2 salary buyout relief (a $1-1yr is a $0.5 penalty as an example) throughout the season, you can buy a guy out a week before playoffs and use that money on a longer term piece and get an advance on free agency. Even though you had the $1-1yr player on your roster for over 95% of the season, you still only pay $0.5 and free up the remaining even though you had him almost the entire season. Just think its kind of a joke and far from realistic (which is what we strive to be for the most part).
You mean a 1 week before the end of the season I assume since we have no playoffs. I say so be it. This late in the season there is practically nothing in the FA pool of players.
You mean a 1 week before the end of the season I assume since we have no playoffs. I say so be it. This late in the season there is practically nothing in the FA pool of players.
September Callups
ah yea true. There could be some good ones that aren't owned. I still say so be it. As long as we are all playing with that same buyout rule I say it's fine.
Side note....a long term solution to this is to expand the draft. In most deep leagues any September call-up worth owning would already be owned.
Post by Ryan (Cubs) on Jul 26, 2019 8:13:08 GMT -5
The buyout deadline rule is there for a reason and it was a good reason that was negatively influenced by a poorly thought out waiver rule that unfortunately the league voted for without understanding how it conflicts with existing rules like the buyout deadline.
You shouldn’t be able to buyout a player on the last day of the season - when this happened managers could basically cut an entire year off a two year contract with no repercussions. There should be some sort of incentive to either make a decision early or be smarter with your contract offers.
That being said, everyone seems to agree that there needs to be a change this offseason - maybe people will be smarter with what they vote for next time
Post by Ryan (Cubs) on Jul 26, 2019 8:17:59 GMT -5
Id also vote against expanding the draft. The draft already introduces 60+ new players each year and dips a little more into future draft classes every year. Most players from the 1st round of the last MLB draft are already rostered and our draft catches the rest and anyone that falls through. I think it keeps a very good balance and keeps new breakout prospects in the draft which increases value of draft picks for trades.
Also I think it keeps it interesting to have someone fall through the draft and become available as a free agent.
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