This thread is intended for the rules committee, NOT for rehashing all the points over and over again. The rule change suggestion is listed as the third bullet point. All of the other bullet points are the current rules. Simply put, Waivers are intended for permantly removing a player from our roster and salary cap.
Waivers - Waivers will run all year long as a rolling count on proboards. - Any player placed on waivers will not count against your roster limit, but you will be responsible for his salary until/if he is claimed by another team. - If the waivered player is not claimed within 48 hours, you must buyout his contract and post. - To claim a player simply post "claim" under the player's thread and you will assume his entire salary. - Waivers will be on a first-come-first-serve basis.
Post by Ryan (Cubs) on Oct 5, 2018 23:14:32 GMT -5
Not rehashing and I’m in agreement that something needs to change, but I’m not a fan of this proposal.
I’d rather just see the number of players put on waivers by any one team capped at three total. In order to waive a fourth, you need to buyout someone. The waiver system we have is useful for managing things like injuries and demotions throuought the year, but having 15+ players on waivers is abuse and annoying to deal with IMO
I just didn’t want the thread hijacked by those wanting to float a whole team using our current waiver rule....lol. If you want to float three extra players, then simply change the roster size from 25 to 28. This makes more sense than using a waiver gimmick.
Not rehashing and I’m in agreement that something needs to change, but I’m not a fan of this proposal.
I’d rather just see the number of players put on waivers by any one team capped at three total. In order to waive a fourth, you need to buyout someone. The waiver system we have is useful for managing things like injuries and demotions throuought the year, but having 15+ players on waivers is abuse and annoying to deal with IMO
No. Same difference ...your just limiting the number of floated players so rosters are still being artificially expanded. @blue Jays has it right, waive a player and after 48 hours if he goes unclaimed it's a buyout. Simple.
Post by Braves (Kyle) on Dec 12, 2018 21:56:28 GMT -5
I'm going to assume there won't be any claiming with this proposal. Why claim anyone when you can restart the bidding process at a cheaper salary most of the time. So why even have a waiver wire then let's just not be able to add players at all because players can't be left on a waiver wire.
I'm going to assume there won't be any claiming with this proposal. Why claim anyone when you can restart the bidding process at a cheaper salary most of the time. So why even have a waiver wire then let's just not be able to add players at all because players can't be left on a waiver wire.
Not sure what you mean. Claiming assures you get the player. This also mimics real MLB so there's that angle as well
Post by Braves (Kyle) on Dec 12, 2018 22:04:04 GMT -5
Well if a player has a contract at lets say $6/3 why claim that player when you know that player will be bought out and you can restart the bidding at $1/1. I get that people want to change the rule for some reason or another but it will certainly limit activity in this league.
Well if a player has a contract at lets say $6/3 why claim that player when you know that player will be bought out and you can restart the bidding at $1/1. I get that people want to change the rule for some reason or another but it will certainly limit activity in this league.
This is irrelevant though, the goal of the proposed rule is to eliminate the ability to float players there by artificially expanding your roster. It's a problem that needs to be addressed. Your roster is 25 + DL's + NA.
If anything it should increase activity since buyouts go to FA and can be posted for bidding. Seriously there should not be much going on in the waivers thread.
Last Edit: Dec 12, 2018 23:08:17 GMT -5 by Mets (Hani)
So basically we need to come up with 3 options to vote on. Let me know what you think:
1. Keep the waiver process the same as it has been, unlimited players, can pull back and put on waivers anytime.
2. A limit of 3 players on waivers at a time, effectively creating a maximum of 28 players (plus DL) on a roster. When a player comes off DL, you can waive a player, but if you already have 3 then you need to buy someone out.
3. More of a realistic MLB waiver process. If you waive a player, then managers have 48 hours to put in a claim or there is a mandatory buyout.
I think these are the three best ideas, and we should probably just vote on it to come to a conclusion. The more options we have, the less likely a change is made. We will also need to figure out the percentage of voting managers needed to enact a change.
Agree with voting on it. However, adding 3 more potential roster spots favors big salary cap teams. That opens up new problems doesn’t it, lol? How to keep 20 people happy is a no win situation. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I feel for you.
Post by Brewers (Kyle) on Dec 13, 2018 16:27:53 GMT -5
Agree with Blue Jays (can't please them all). My issue is with #3, what if a team doesn't have the ability to buyout a 18/3 contract (as an example)? (or $20+ contracts after this wave of 15-16.5/year players expires)
@bluejays, the 3 extra spots are just waiver spots. You are limited to 3 waivers.
@brewers, you just have to be careful awarding those big time offers I guess. You would likely just have to use the trade block in order to move them, unfortunately.
Like you said, there's no single way everyone will be happy with, but these two alternatives each are an improvement I think, so I am open to whatever. Obviously I used last years rules as a benefit more than most (and we all know most of the people were upset with Brewers), but I am truly open to whatever the league wants. i think all of these options are actionable and acceptable.
Agree with Blue Jays (can't please them all). My issue is with #3, what if a team doesn't have the ability to buyout a 18/3 contract (as an example)? (or $20+ contracts after this wave of 15-16.5/year players expires)
Same issue exists under the current rule though. The proposed limit is to solve one problem only
I don't think option #1 should be considered at all also for option #2 are the admins prepared to monitor the 3 limit?
I think if you waive a 4th it would just automatically buyout the first (of the three) that you waived. I could put a color on the player in the spreadsheet indicating they are waived. If there is a 3 player limit, I am much more willing to monitor that.
Last Edit: Dec 13, 2018 20:38:16 GMT -5 by Deleted
We'll vote on it when league opens on Saturday, but I just wanted to get the 3 options solidified. Hopefully everyone likes at least one option. If not, feel free to post other suggestions
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