Baseball will have another lock out as both the Owners & Players do not have a good track record. Neither side trust the other. Both sides are greedy. How long will it last, it depends upon whom blinks first!
Post by Cardinals (Steve K) on Dec 3, 2021 13:09:54 GMT -5
Lockout will happen until all 3 parties can come to an agreement
1. Players 2. Large Market Owners 3. Mid-Small Market Owners
The idea of the competitive balance tax was to create a way to get money to distributed to #3 above. This didn't exactly work out the intended way. Most teams used the tax threshold as a salary cap thus cutting revenue off of sharing to the lesser rans.
Players will want a way to tap into the $10B industry, right now, about $4B of that money isn't tapped into as it sits comfortably in the coffers of the Large Market teams with the huge regional TV deals, radio deals, etc. In other words, if the Red Sox/Yankees/Dodgers spent the same % of revenue on payroll as Tampa Bay, Oakland, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, take your pick, they'd have a payroll north of $400MM. So, if $212MM is the threshold that teams hold themselves to, the large market $188MM or so is untapped and just sits there.
The other dynamic that changed and has to be resolved is the age of free agency as well as the getting paid earlier. In Christopher Price's book The Blueprint - the author details how Bill Belichick took his economic formulas (predecessor to analytics to be honest) and applied them to players. He made it clear that the New England Patriots were not going to pay for past performance, nor were they handing out lifetime achievement awards in contracts. Players would be paid for what the formula's suggested along with his analytics for evaluation score.
In MLB, it used to be a gentleman's agreement, similar to the NFL, that you played early in your career at sub-optimal pay but the pot of gold would come in free agency. Well, that went away as front office's adapted the Patriots economic mindset (call it Moneyball if you like).
The result? Less pay for the marginal free agent, more non-tender of guys in year 5 and 6, and shorter 1-2 year deals for the 31-32 year old player. Now, every year there is a huge free agent market where the bargaining power has diminished for the better part of the group (yeah, the top guys still get paid). The market forces all work against the player, from age, expected performance, and finding players at minimum salary that can be projected to have same impact on a team.
The one way that baseball can bring more fun to cities is to have a better revenue sharing where teams like Pittsburgh can entertain free agents, retain their own players, or trade for players with higher dollar salaries.
As for the market dynamics? They won't change (age, expected performance, and comparable players at less dollars). So, the guys in year 0-3 need to get paid more to balance out that. Arbitration must come early and the stats used in arbitration need to be modified to reflect analytics and not the old counting stats.
My hope, the game figures out a way to have a shared vision and I really don't care how long that takes.
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Post by Red Sox (Kris) on Mar 3, 2022 9:18:55 GMT -5
I feel that the best solution is to allow the owners the option. Most of us have some players that we would love for this season to count (bad contracts) and we also have players that we don’t want to los a year of (good contracts). So, having the option to choose seems fair for all of us.
Post by Padres (Rodger) on Mar 3, 2022 9:25:07 GMT -5
I don't feel we can have it both ways. We either tag a year onto everyone's contract or we just carry on as normal and the contracts tick down. We can't be picking and choosing who we want to extend or not.
Ryan (Cubs): Today is the last day to re-sign your restricted free agents! All players that are left unsigned will be dropped tomorrow and eligible for free agency
Feb 23, 2024 10:02:14 GMT -5
Padres (Rodger): Luis Matos is showing up twice on my roster sheet, as a OF and a SP, can you remove the SP line please.
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Pirates (Gregg): Everyone update your Yahoo Roster!
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Red Sox (Kris): We still have a MAX 20 prospects, correct?
Feb 26, 2024 9:15:10 GMT -5
Ryan (Cubs): Yes. 20 prospects is the MiLB max, you either need to drop a prospect or call someone up if you are over that limit.
Feb 26, 2024 11:56:08 GMT -5
Red Sox (Kris): I don’t, but I know that some do. So, to be clear, we can draft over the 20 limit as long as we cut down before the season starts?
Feb 29, 2024 23:45:26 GMT -5
Ryan (Cubs): Technically you should be dropping a player anytime a draft pick or trade takes you over the limit of 20. I must've missed it but Yankees needs to release one of his MiLB players, they are the only team over the limit right now
Mar 1, 2024 7:43:12 GMT -5
Red Sox (Kris): Thanks for clarifying
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Blue Jays (Brandy): Still willing to talk SP......
Mar 3, 2024 1:12:18 GMT -5
Rockies (Jose): Is Yuki Matsui rostered?
Mar 12, 2024 16:15:04 GMT -5
Ryan (Cubs): Technically you can't bid on Yuki in free agency until he pitches an inning in the MLB. You could have drafted him in the MiLB draft, but players that haven't made their debut can't be nominated in Free Agency.
Mar 13, 2024 13:37:27 GMT -5
Blue Jays (Brandy): Shopping Gallen if anyone needing an ace level sp
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Blue Jays (Brandy): Shopping Vaughn if anyone needs a 1b?
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Mariners (Rook): I do believe Ronel Blanco free agent final bid of $3/3 by LAD is invalid and the player should be returned to free agency. That was LAD last transaction and it put his cap -0.25. We can’t go negative cap. What say you?
Apr 5, 2024 21:29:05 GMT -5
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Ryan (Cubs): @mariners, correct. LAD's bid on Blanco put him $.25 over the cap so the bid is invalidated. I've messaged LAD and dropped Blanco from his roster
Apr 8, 2024 7:28:32 GMT -5
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Pirates (Gregg): @mariners Tyler Holton RP DET
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Ryan (Cubs): NEW FORUM UPDATE: I created a new space to list your Prospect Promotions. A lot of the promotions get lost in the Roster Moves tab. Please post all of your prospect call-ups in the new section and I'll be able to update the page faster!
Apr 16, 2024 7:42:44 GMT -5
Ryan (Cubs): Of course D’Arnaud hits 3 HR today…after I put him on waivers
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